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24 April 2017 @ 01:42 pm
Professional identity crisis, ahoy!  
I need input, oh my fandom buds. For just about as long as I've been on the internet, I've used Quickreaver. My legal name is Christine (Cris) Griffin, which is 1.) cursed because of that stupid Family Guy cartoon and 2.) super common. So I've been using Quickreaver for everything, but I fear that since it's my fandom moniker, it's not the best thing to use for professional representation. WHAT TO DO. I've been sorta going with Christine Griffin Art, but wow, is that bland. And my portfolio site is quickreaver.com. I've bought the domain and everything.

Thoughts?  Is the crossover confusing or likely to thwart my professional ambitions? Or could it possibly help? Or am I making a huge to-do about nuthin'?

*siiiiigh*
 
 
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borgmama1of5borgmama1of5 on April 24th, 2017 06:46 pm (UTC)
As far as I am concerned, when I see quickreaver I know it's going to be gorgeous art. No idea if having fandom attached to that name will be a pro or con though...sorry I can't be more help...
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 24th, 2017 07:05 pm (UTC)
Help or no, THANK YOU! <3
BeeLikeJ: Amber Bensonbeelikej on April 24th, 2017 06:50 pm (UTC)
I know of Family Guy, but did not know your name was somehow part of that or that it is common for the US.

I like the alliteration of Christine Griffin:) I don't know if Quickreaver means anything, but love the name: IT HAS A Q IN IT, NAMES WITH A Q ARE AWESOME. I think both your identities would work, unless you don't want your fandom art to be associated with your professional work. As I am one of those people that doesn't hide their online identity nor mind that people do fandom, I don't know how big of a deal that can be;)

I am a big fan of keeping a clear identity all over the internet though, so if your domain is Quickreaver, I'd go with that. You can always 'reveal' your legal name there. Actually, that is just what you're doing right now, so I'd say keep it up;)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 24th, 2017 07:11 pm (UTC)
I totally know where you're coming from, J. I fret that muggles don't understand fandom, though, and if, say, a gallery owner stumbles upon it all, they may not think I'm "serious" or "professional". (I love Q's too! My maiden name is Quackenbush, heh!)

I think I'll stick to Quickreaver for All Things Fandom, and do something unrelated for the rest of the art world. I'm thinking of SeeGriffinArt. On twitter, folks dug the "griffin" aspect (and it is my married name), but there are already a bajillion Chris Griffins, Christine Griffins, even using my middle initial (M) doesn't help, heh!

Whatdya think?
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madebyme_x: pic#110142851madebyme_x on April 24th, 2017 06:56 pm (UTC)

That's a bit of a quandary. I'd be tempted to keep quickreaver because of the domain and portfolio. But I guess it depends on whether you mind people maybe coming across your fandom involvement or not. That's something personal to you. Surely a lot of artist get work through fandom and fandom connections nowadays? I guess it all depends on how you want to brand yourself to others. I'm not sure how helpful that was but I wish you all the best :)

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 24th, 2017 07:13 pm (UTC)
I guess it all depends on how you want to brand yourself to others.

Yep, this is the big question, and whether or not fandom is confusing to potential non-fandom clients who might stumble on my stuff. I think, to seem as professional as possible, I'm gonna keep 'quickreaver' to fandom and go with a variation of my given name for the rest of it. I've been creeping that way, anyways; it just takes me forever to make up my mind!
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merakieross: priest!kinkmerakieross on April 24th, 2017 07:32 pm (UTC)
I think it totally depends on your artist work field, for example I really need the division between my fandom work and professional work because I do classes and sometimes work with kids, imagine my 8 years old student or their parents googling my name and finding all the wincest gay porn. For practical measures I need it. But if you have no troubles mixing up both worlds you should go for it. Is an awesome name.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 24th, 2017 08:09 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the input, lovely!
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merakieross: priest!kinkmerakieross on April 24th, 2017 07:43 pm (UTC)
I think it totally depends on your artist work field, for example I really need the division between my fandom work and professional work because I do classes and sometimes work with kids, imagine my 8 years old student or their parents googling my name and finding all the wincest gay porn. For practical measures I need it. But if you have no troubles mixing up both worlds you should go for it. Is an awesome name.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 25th, 2017 08:33 pm (UTC)
Thanks, punkin!
Amber: Bumamberdreams on April 24th, 2017 08:03 pm (UTC)
If you really feel your fan identity doesn't fit with your overall professional art, why not go with the Griffin part of your real name for your professional ID? It's a cool mythical creature - Griffin Art sounds good, and you could design are really cool logo to go with it... It doesn't solve the web domain issue though.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 24th, 2017 08:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah, part of my problem is that all the variations on Griffin, CGriffin, Christine Griffin, is already taken by someone else! So I'm actually toying with using SeeGriffinArt, as a play on my first initial and the wanting people to SEE my art. Get it? HA HA HA.

Okay, is that too corny?
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Amber: Bumamberdreams on April 24th, 2017 08:14 pm (UTC)
Hee hee Quackenreaver for fandom, Quickreaver for work
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 24th, 2017 08:16 pm (UTC)
*snickersnort!*
museaway: fox profilemuseaway on April 24th, 2017 08:58 pm (UTC)
From where I'm sitting, you have three options: go through a complete rebranding for your professional identity and disassociate yourself from Quickreaver, use Quickreaver only for work and rebrand within fandom, or tweak what you have.

I'd stick with Quickreaver and steer it in the direction you envision for the brand. You've already split your Twitter accounts between pro/fandom, and your Instagram works as-is. You could include your name on the pro site, ex. "Quickreaver.com: The Art of Christine Griffin," so there is a human behind the brand if you're afraid the semi-anonymous identity is harming you. I don't know enough about your industry to know if there is negativity associated with being a fan artist. Gen fanart seems to be celebrated, and that's largely what you do as QR. It could even be a way to attract self-publishing authors coming out of fandom and looking for a pro illustrator (if you take that sort of work directly from clients). Fandom seems to be losing its stigma and becoming more mainstream. If you're not worried that someone might Google you and end up on your fandom twitter account, I wouldn't bother splitting your identities.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 24th, 2017 09:11 pm (UTC)
THANK YOU FOR THIS INPUT! This is exactly what I'm fretting about. I've purchased quickreaver.com, and that's where my pro portfolio is directed, currently. My profession certainly understands fandom better than most, but if I tiptoe into "fine arts", that's a whole 'nother ballgame. To date, I've been trying to straddle both worlds. Well, THREE worlds: fandom, applied arts, fine arts. Maybe I'm just overthinking all this. It's so funny, but I've gotten so much valid, but conflicting, advice, I'm no closer to coming to a decision than I was this morning!

LOL!
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gingersnap1224: slidersgingersnap1224 on April 25th, 2017 12:09 am (UTC)
I think the worst thing would be to change your professional identity. You already own the domain and have a nice website. People who aren't in the fandom don't know what it is so, so what.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 25th, 2017 07:03 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this is where I'm drifting...
It goes ding when there's stuff: [text] no ideacleflink on April 25th, 2017 12:32 am (UTC)
I don't have much advice to give, as I am also stymied by this question, but I can say when I google 'quickreaver', your fandom stuff comes up first (with your DA account in slot number one) and your professional website is the last entry on the first page of hits. If you are planning to continue connecting Quickreaver with all of your art, you may want to see if there's anything that can be done to change that. I don't know much of anything about the art world, but I know that I often skip over DA accounts when they pop up, since the quality there is so diverse.

Best of luck!

(Relevant icon is relevant!)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 25th, 2017 07:03 pm (UTC)
YES. I need to work on dragging my personal site to the fore, that is ABSOLUTELY a fact. I think that'll be step #1. Damned DA...I haven't posted anything there in literally years.
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cuddyclothes: Manny Mouse 2cuddyclothes on April 25th, 2017 12:56 am (UTC)
I agree with changing your fandom name. I'm cuddyclothes pretty much across the board. But because of an earlier blog, I'm @madfashionista on Twitter, as well as on Youtube. From my online selling days, my selling ID is hoardmeister. Quickreaver is SUCH a great name, and if you can rename your fandom accounts, that would seem to me to be the best possible solution.

I also have a private blog under the name Wackjob.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 25th, 2017 07:02 pm (UTC)
I'm torn, because I'm far better known by my fandom name, all 'round. And my given name is so common. I suspect I'm over-thinking the hell outta this, and probably should stop fretting and just put shit out there, heh...
The Long and Winding Road: Pilot Sam (profile)amypond45 on April 25th, 2017 01:15 am (UTC)
What about QuickGriffin? Or ReaverGriffin? (Sorry, I love word-play too much!)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 25th, 2017 07:00 pm (UTC)
:D
(Anonymous) on April 25th, 2017 02:10 am (UTC)
Depending upon what your professional goals are, I don't necessarily think fan art is quite the death knell it may have been considered in the past. I've seen quite a few professional illustrators and and artists get exposure, sales, and commissioned work from the popularity of their fan art. Art depicting existing properties that people know and like is far more likely to get shared online than completely original art of similar quality (I have mixed feelings about this because there is so much good original work that gets overlooked, but I'm guilty of it, too). You also already have an audience as Quickreaver and that's not something to.ignore. I know I'd be more likely to follow and share your original art than I might be for an artist I didn't already know and admire. I also know several artists that incorporated fanwork/pop culture into their gallery shows successfully.

That said, there can be benefits to having versatility in the way you present yourself to potential clients. When I freelanced, I kept separate sites for my design and development work and for my illustration and art. A lot of my web clients were businesses and organizations that would probably be confused by a portfolio with my less professionally-oriented stuff. But I didn't really obfuscate my identity for for either of them and would link from my art site to my design site. It was easy to find both if you were looking, and (as far as I know) it never cost me any jobs. And you may have less of a need for separation since development and art are two very different markets, whereas you're looking at more of two different genres/audiences of art.

So maybe A/B test it? Send some traditional art traffic to a personally branded site sans fan work, and some to a Quickreaver branded site, and see if there's really a difference in response?

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 25th, 2017 07:00 pm (UTC)
Who are you, anon?? This is wonderful advice!

I have certainly noticed how fanworks are being more widely accepted/appreciated, and it's becoming far less of a stigma than it used to be. I suspect I'm over-thinking the hell out of it; I should just DO THE WORK, spread the love, and stop worrying.
tabaqui: spikeblack&violetbygilkurtisctxttabaqui on April 25th, 2017 03:47 am (UTC)
So maybe go with Q.R. Griffin (QuickReaver Griffin) for your 'pro' name. It still links your fandom identity (and with a Q!), but in a way that 'muggles' won't connect (so your fandom stuff is still mostly anonymous to them) and your fandom peeps will see and know.

That way, too, your can keep your domain name, and some people will make the QR/Quickreaver connection) and some people - because, my gods, people seem to not be aware of stuff *at all* - won't even notice.

Good luck!
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffin: Black-eyed Samquickreaver on April 25th, 2017 06:56 pm (UTC)
Thank ya! I'll ponder this, for sure...

(If I ever turn to publishing, Q.R. Griffin would be a GREAT pen name...)
(Anonymous) on April 30th, 2017 03:06 pm (UTC)
I like your fandom name, it's memorable