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18 November 2012 @ 02:59 pm
Thinky-thoughts...  
This is likely to stir up a hornet's nest, but I'm in the mood.

Okay, shipping. What exactly does this entail? Is there a mandatory sexual element? Must there be? And just because a segment of fandom adheres to a particular ship, should The Powers That Be and the actors involved in the fantasy ship be obligated to listen to/tolerate/agree with this shippery?



Little back-story: I listened to an interview with Misha Collins on Winchester Radio
a few days ago and they took caller questions, unscreened. (Probably not the wisest idea.) The last one was courtesy of a weepy young lady who was desperate for Misha to comment on 'Destiel'. He hemmed and hawed and tap-danced around it, she kept pushing, and it all ended up feeling very awkward. About the same time, an essay
popped up on my tumblr dash concerning how good it is that shipping come out of the closet, particularly for the LGBT community (with specific reference to Destiel).

Now, my brother is gay. I read NC-17 slashy fanfic. I'm not a homophobe but as a woman married to a dude, I'm in no position to adjudicate what it's like to be gay or bi. Nor do I feel like we, as a fandom, have the right to bully the show's writers/actors into compliance with ANY of our wishes unless they damned well feel like addressing the topic. And if certain fans are too socially ass-backward to suss out when they're making someone uncomfortable, do we not have the right to comment? Do we not have the right to put a foot down?

There's been a lot of talk about 'shaming' ... ship-shaming, kink-shaming, etc. and how we shouldn't tolerate it. We're all freaks of some stripe; who are we to judge? But there ARE LINES, folks. When we begin to make someone else uncomfortable, we need to back the fuck off and rethink our tactics. Criminy, put yourself in their shoes. Yes, you have the right to say what you want. Guess what? SO DO THEY.

Please don’t shove your ship in anyone’s face and expect them to put their blessing on it, especially not in public. Please don’t assume that shipping is some greater societal statement. Write your own story; let others write theirs.

All comments welcomed, but pleeeease, stay civil, 'kay?
 
 
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Amberamberdreams on November 20th, 2012 11:36 am (UTC)
I get the feeling that SPN is realtively good with it's PC treatment of LGBT issues - on the face of it, Dean is the macho guy who is uncomfortable with his sexuality being questioned, Sam is the more liberal minded one who finds it amusing. They had Charlie be gay without it being a big thing, it just meant Dean could stop hitting on her, they had the whole 'go be gay' for that poor dead guy in the Ghostfacers one that I never watch and that was not made into a big thing. In a show that is about fighting monsters, they've managed to get in as much as you could reasonably expect, I suppose. They've had strong black characters (though none permanent), now they have the Trans who are Asian. Diversity is hard to show when you have a story that centres on MOWs and two white middle American guys, but they do a reasonable job of getting some in there. I bet none of the writers are non-whites either.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on November 20th, 2012 02:23 pm (UTC)
I bet you're right; all of their writers are Caucasian. They are fairly diverse in their character creation, though, aren't they! Hmm!