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23 January 2013 @ 10:09 am
Where's everybody going?  
Lately, I've noted a mass exodus from LJ. It hits me in my heart.

And not because I have this undying loyalty for LJ, or because SPN is losing its dazzle for some fans, but because I feel that maybe this big, weird world we call the internet was creating a new sort of friend. No, it's not the same thing as knowing someone face to face, but the internet has become a notable part of our socializing and networking these days, there's no denying that. And I've gotten to know some really talented and fantastic people through LJ and fandom events, so when they drop off the map, I mourn the loss.

SPN might've introduced me to folks, but I read them because they're excellent writers, or I look at their art because it's gorgeous and poignant.

Yeah, things evolve. Relationships ebb and flow. Can't be helped. Hrm. Yeah. So I guess I want to say thank you to the awesome people I've met through this strange ride. Real life may be interceding, as well it should, but you've made my on-line time a fun, educational, sometimes really moving place.

Y'all know who you are. :D (IF YOU'RE AROUND TO READ THIS! Heh...)
Current Mood: melancholymelancholy
Current Music: 'Think Twice' - Groove Armada
Lady Moon-Loona-cyjennytork on January 23rd, 2013 03:15 pm (UTC)
I hope I'm one of those!

I've noticed it, too, as well as people being very, VERY vocal about leaving SPN fandom.

And that makes me mad.

Granted, when I left S&H fandom, I left a nastygram, but that was a decade ago and I'd like to think I've grown as a person.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 03:37 pm (UTC)
You are welcome in my kitchen journal any time!

I'm not mad about everyone leaving, I just can't help feeling a little personally abandoned, as though "That's all I was to you? One tiny part of SPN?" Silly, yeah, but I think it's also part of the flightiness of the internet. Fancies pass at the speed of hitting a send button.

Maybe I'm just too old school for this world...
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Blackrabbit42blackrabbit42 on January 23rd, 2013 03:16 pm (UTC)
Oh, I completely agree. It hits me particularly hard, because I am extremely isolated. I live way out in the woods in the middle of nowhere, and I work at home, so some days, LJ is my only contact with the outside world.

OK, that makes me sound like an extremely creepy hermit or something.... but I am just so grateful for all the smiles I get from the fic I read, or the amazing art that gets posted.

There's one author in particular that I miss incredibly, I feel like I am going through serious withdrawal. She lives in NY, and I thought maybe Sandy turned her life upside-down or something, but it looks like she's really just not posting here anymore. :(

Not that it makes that much of a difference, but I'm here for the long haul, so there'll always be at least one loyal fan here for ya!

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 03:44 pm (UTC)
You hit on something, here. I live in a suburb of a biggish city but I work from home, too. And the internet is frequently my social circle (though I crave real world relationships like WHOA and exploit them whenever I can!)

If my fave authors who wrote SPN continue to write in the urban fantasy/horror genre, I would so totally buy their books! Maybe they're just not writing at all anymore. I dunno. But I like to support the creatives I've met on-line, and I can't do that if they disappear.

I'll be here on LJ spreading the SPN love for the foreseeable future. It's still fun for me; I still have stories to tell and pictures to paint. So come sit by my fire. :D
cassiopeia7: Dean: pretty+seriouscassiopeia7 on January 23rd, 2013 03:28 pm (UTC)
Oh, I've definitely noticed that. I'm trying to ignore it, but as jennytork said above, people are becoming increasingly LOUD about leaving fandom, bailing on LJ for the next shiny thing, et cetera. There is a bit of an exodus going on, and people seem oddly gleeful about announcing their departure/defection/whatever. I still haven't quite figured out whether that makes me sad or annoyed. :(

Whatever. I'm not going anywhere, either fandom or LJ-wise.

. . . you're not leaving, are you? *clings*
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 03:35 pm (UTC)
The public gnashing of teeth is probably part venting, part info update, and part looking for someone to commiserate with. So I get it. It still makes me a melancholy.

Bu HELL NO, I'M NOT LEAVING. Not for the foreseeable future. *clings back*
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de_nugisde_nugis on January 23rd, 2013 03:32 pm (UTC)
It saddens me, too. I'm at a pretty solitary point in my offline life, so I'm finding the online losses painful.

I'm also aware that part of the reason I'm so obstinately sticking to Spn in spite of what I do feel, objectively, is a serious loss of direction and some very weak writing, is just because I can't afford to lose the social network that comes with it. My fandom friendships do extend beyond fandom, but I think they also need some fandom matrix to hold them together.

I don't know. It's depressing. It makes me depressed. But I'm not going anywhere.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 03:46 pm (UTC)
I'm not going anywhere either. You totally get it. I'm thrilled beyond happy that you get it.

A fandom may be the matrix, but it's got wider ripples than that. We can be ripples together.

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ash48: Clingsash48 on January 23rd, 2013 03:33 pm (UTC)
It's weird for me... I see people leaving but I've also seen people arriving. (and I've met more people this season than the last few...hee...maybe because there's less of us *g*)

I see lots of people making a real effort to keep it alive and kicking. I think Tumblr has been the cause of a lot of that also. Though there's no doubt over the last few years there's been a big drop off.


ETA; Not going anywhere. Too many lovely people over here. There may be less of us but what we lack in numbers we make up in quality! :)

Edited at 2013-01-23 03:35 pm (UTC)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 03:52 pm (UTC)
You are such a gorgeous person! Yes yes and yes!

I do get that folks lose interest or real life takes them away, but it's okay to keep your fandom friends, regardless. We will be support! We're not just the errant, odd fan; there's a real person attached to these fingers, and in whatever way we can, we care.

There may be less of us but what we lack in numbers we make up in quality! Go, Team Long Haulers! :D
tesserae_ on January 23rd, 2013 03:33 pm (UTC)
I've made awesome friends via lj and I'm really glad that when I got online in the early 2000s that everyone was, so to speak, i one place. I don't think fandom would be the same experience if I were doing it now.

Having said that, had lj *just* been a fannish activity for me I'd have lost interest. What's kept me here emotionally has been getting to know people through their writings on other things, through engaging on other topics. I have any number of folks on my flist I no longer share fandoms with - I think, as SPN inevitably comes to an end, we'll see more changes in how we experience lj, and some of us may well drift over to other communities.

(hmm, not sure I have a pint here! But lj is like real life for me, in that shared interests sometimes create friendships and sometimes just create opportunities to find people who do the same things...)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 03:59 pm (UTC)

I initially got onto LJ for the fandom, but it has since morphed into my writing -- and to a lesser degree -- my arting community. (I'm a bit more solitary in my arting these days but I'm working to change that, too.) Over the years, I've collected a lovely and varied assortment of creatives that I can depend upon to give me great advice and listen to me kvetch.

I wouldn't walk away from that. That'd be plain senseless.

Point or no, I'm glad I'm not the only one! And I'm so lucky you took an interest in my little dog-n-pony creative show. :D
Amberamberdreams on January 23rd, 2013 03:36 pm (UTC)
I don't understand why people are leaving LJ just because they want to leave a fandom when they have friends here - it is possible to talk about other things, write and art other things and still share the feelings of friendliness...isn't it?
Oh well, nothing lasts forever.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 04:02 pm (UTC)
EXACTLY, THIS. You've distilled it down to its essence.

Nope, nothing lasts forever, sadly. Maybe because I'm older, I'm not quite as mercurial as some and it takes longer for this old dog to learn new tricks.

But that's okay. :D I'm staying for the foreseeable future.
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Kadysnbt_kady on January 23rd, 2013 03:49 pm (UTC)
What I find disappointing is when people I'd grown to care for leave SPN and move onto other fandoms I'm not into and can't appreciate. We no longer have anything in common. I'm not leaving the SPN fandom, no matter what's going on on the show. I'm with it to the end, and probably after, and I'm with those who are there with me to the end.

I just wish there was more sympathy for Sam. He's getting too much wank I don't feel he deserves.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 04:08 pm (UTC)
Yanno, the fading of the show has a lot to do with not just Sam's character becoming unfocused (and by some accounts, unloved) but simply the aging of the show itself. It's rare that ANY show, let alone a genre one, lasts this long. It's understandable that folks -- fans, actors, directors -- might get a little bored and start fishing around for the next thing.

But I've met some really amazing folks through the fandom and it makes me most sad when they chose to just pick up and leave. Now, there may be completely worthy and real-world reasons for this, so I don't judge! I just lament.

And I guess part of the reason I made this post was to openly thank and appreciate the lovely relationships I've made, and fortify the fact that I'm not going anywhere, pending unexpected disaster!

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fannishliss: Felicia Dayfannishliss on January 23rd, 2013 04:00 pm (UTC)
I am still on LJ. I have an account on AO3 now! but not Tumbler, I just don't like it very much.

I'll be waving at you! :)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 04:02 pm (UTC)
YAY! *waves madly*
counteragentcounteragent on January 23rd, 2013 04:08 pm (UTC)
I was sad for weeks this fall because I missed all my friends, but I felt so weird talking about it, like, "I'm missing my imaginary friends"? I'm planning a vid about it (that I may never make, because if you vid in a forest and no one hears it...)

BUT. I just wanted to say that I have met some new and great people recently as LJ has contracted on itself, and you are one of my favorite finds. You write (gen even!), you draw! You stand on your head and shoot arrows with your feet!

Edited at 2013-01-23 04:09 pm (UTC)
Amber: JA-smileamberdreams on January 23rd, 2013 04:17 pm (UTC)
Hee hee where is the LJ 'like' button?
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downjune: headlightsdownjune on January 23rd, 2013 04:12 pm (UTC)
I joined LJ in 2007, which was a bit late and I've flitted from one fandom to the next so it's hard for me to keep in touch with people--though there are a few stalwarts who transcend years and fandoms, which I hope I can say about at least a few of my new spn friends. *loves on you madly*

Sometimes you do have to break up with a fandom (I had to leave anime behind) and that's sad. I hope enough people still stay here b.c there doesn't seem to be another platform that allows for actual conversation. I like both Ao3 and tumblr but not because I have actual friends there. But, yeah, I went looking for lj comms for books that I've read and loved, and for the movie Pitch Perfect and there... weren't any. Like, I think new fandoms aren't even coming here which is :(
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 04:25 pm (UTC)
LJ (so I guess to some degree DW, since it's a knock-off) is the BEST place for posting and conversing, totally agree! I came a little late to the game, too, and never really had a hard-core fandom prior. Firefly is my next closest competition and that poor thing just didn't get much airtime.

Tumblr is so flighty and hard to follow, and AO3 is great for posting fic but little else.

I was instantly amazed by the level of smarts and skill I found in the SPN fandom (yourself included!) so it saddens me to see it flag. But things evolve and time marches on. I don't think I'll ever truly be 'done' with SPN; I've made too many friends and love the universe too much. No other franchise has snared me like this one, even in my younger years. We'll all drift into other things as Show ends, but I hope I keep these relationships and for THAT, I will stay on LJ for the foreseeable future.

You're welcome at my LJ kitchen table for chocolate and tea any day. :D
harriganharrigan on January 23rd, 2013 04:20 pm (UTC)
Thank you for posting this! I'm still here for the duration too!

I've been off LJ more lately, due to Real Life burdens. And my enjoyment of SPN has waned too... but not my affection for the characters. (And for the folks on LJ who share that affection!)

I've even signed up for this year's spn_j2_bigbang on the naive hope that Real Life will let me re-engage with fandom again.

I'm really glad you're sticking around!

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 04:36 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you're sticking around too!

Re. the bang, personally I do those things not wholly to engage with my precious fandom, but I use it as an excuse to become a better writer or artist (depending upon which path I take any given year.) Writing about The Boys is just a very pleasing side-effect. :D

Real life burdens, I get. Real life must come before the on-line life (though it gets a little complicated for me because I work on-line, but that's another can o' worms.)

You're welcome in my virtual world, SPN or no, any time!

applegeuseapplegeuse on January 23rd, 2013 04:28 pm (UTC)
I've only been around in SPN fandom for about the last two years (though I had an LJ for years before that and never used it. Meant to use it for Harry Potter, but never actually did), so to me, everything still feels all shiny and new! And my own uptick in LJ participation makes it difficult to notice less activity elsewhere, if that make sense? So it seems to me that fandom is really active! :> And I'm definitely not going anywhere. <3
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 04:40 pm (UTC)
Hoorah for shiny and new! I've been around a while, but I'm certainly not the longest in the tooth. It's normal for 'fads' or hobbies to ebb and flow; I just hate seeing the ebb in this case. And the fact I've met some talented folks (fandom notwithstanding) makes it even tougher to watch it gutter. I'm really happy to see you with us! You're pretty damned awesome.

I'll probably be a stubborn wart on the SPN fandom for quite some time to come. You'll always have a safe place to rest your bones here.
Charity: [Sam] IMTODcherry916 on January 23rd, 2013 05:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, LJ is sadly very bare these days and a lot of fans are voicing some displeasure this season and not watching the new season. I can't really say I blame them, because I won't lie. I'm not happy with the direction of the show either but I guess I'm a masochist because I refuse to quit watching heh

Plus fans are surging to tumblr but I don't know why they abandon this ship all together. I have both and use them both in equal amounts!
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 06:51 pm (UTC)
Tumblr is better for spamming imagery, but GOD do I hate trying to have a 'discussion' there. The days when my entire dashboard is consumed by one giant reblogged rant that is nigh impossible to follow are MISERABLE. LJ is still the best place to have a conversation.

I get that fandoms ebb and flow, sometimes die. I get that folks are unhappy with Season Eight; I've had my issues with it too but I LOVE MY SHOW. It still tickles my fancy and I could watch J2 read the phonebook and it would make me happy. I love ghosts and demons and monsters, oh my. It's my genre.

I ain't goin' anywhere. :D *fistbumpblowup*
unplugged32unplugged32 on January 23rd, 2013 05:34 pm (UTC)
I thought that everyone was heading off to DW but when I checked recently over there I found the SPN community/fans to be quiet as well so maybe it's just people moving on in general? I'm stll here, still enjoying your art, still loving the show and the friends I've made.

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on January 23rd, 2013 06:54 pm (UTC)
Yep, I think your observations are correct. I'm glad you're still here too! And THANK YOU. Drawing SPN just never gets old for me. (Might get old for viewers but I DON'T CARE, HA!)

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