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31 May 2014 @ 01:31 am
7 Days of Self-promotion: Day 1  
"Something Old"

I went back to the beginning (2011, apparently) for this. I'd been lurking a bit prior, watching the show as a 'regular' viewer, and I was just smitten, even w/o an exposure to fandom. The first fanart I posted here on LJ was for my best girl, monicawoe and her series "Theosis". Monica was really my gateway drug into SPN fandom and I never looked back!

Theosis teaser

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And my first fanfic: Kiss With a Fist is Better Than None. It's a bit dark *cough* and conspicuously artsy, but it had a few clever bits too, maybe? I sometimes debate going back and revising these older pieces but then I think "Nah." These are little time capsules of where we were back then, and how far we've come. If we go back and mess with them, it erases that history, that information. I'm not a particular sentimental person, but I think I like looking back at these things, such as they are, with a sort of wistful fondness. They're by no means great, but they have great spots. And that's enough for me. :)

How do you all feel about your older pieces? Do you want to rework them? Or do you feel like they are what they are?
 
 
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Current Music: 'Kiss With a Fist' - Florence and the Machine
 
 
 
Amberamberdreams on May 31st, 2014 06:51 am (UTC)
Gosh that was your very first SPN fanart? I remember it well...it's still rather beautiful. I'm going to have to re-read the fic though, before I can remember what it was about.

I don't often look at my older work, fic-wise, but sometimes I am taken by surprise by someone leaving a review and will re-read it to find out what on earth they are talking about. Because of course, I can't blooming remember. My reaction is either a cringe (which in some ways is nice, because I like to think I have improved) or surprise that something is actually not so bad. I wouldn't want to revisit any of it though - it feels like the moment is passed and I am more interested in moving forward.

Art on the other hand is something I do sometimes feel the urge to redraw...

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:36 pm (UTC)
I have too many new ideas that never get realized to revisit old ones, too! So that's another hurdle...
comachomaisky on May 31st, 2014 07:03 am (UTC)
I also started drawing SPN fanart in 2011, and the during the first two years I struggled hard with the style. The boys are too pretty and I couldn't preserve their good looks in art, and I think that's a challenge that kept me drawing and practicing. I can hardly look at my early works, and even some recent works (like the bottom Sam porn), but there is something special in every piece that kept me from deleting them. I know I can never reproduce any of them. They record what I loved about the show, what I was feeling, and what I could do at that time. Looking at them is like looking at old selves. I did rework one piece recently, but that's a rare case. So basically I'm pretty like you, I think :)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:41 pm (UTC)
You're the second flist person I've stumbled across that began in 2011!

(I just went back and looked at your SPN art tag because there were many I missed. THAT COMIC. Just whoa! You really do inspire me by how brave you are with poses and settings and EVERYTHING!)
(no subject) - chomaisky on June 2nd, 2014 02:40 am (UTC) (Expand)
brutti_ma_buonibrutti_ma_buoni on May 31st, 2014 10:06 am (UTC)
Enjoying this meme - and yes, I sometimes cringe at my early stuff, but I don't want to edit it. I spent a good couple of years exploring how to write before I wrote anything that I really felt. So it's practice pieces, trying to get voices and moods, and all very short. It is what it is.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:42 pm (UTC)
Agreed! It is what it is, warts and all. :D
unplugged32unplugged32 on May 31st, 2014 10:48 am (UTC)
Your work is very impressive my dear, you always manage to leave me in awe:)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:42 pm (UTC)
Aw, thank you! And my condolences on your mother. *hugs* So tough. My mom is 74 too but has been in blessedly good health. Hang in there...
(no subject) - unplugged32 on June 2nd, 2014 10:12 am (UTC) (Expand)
dolnmoon: J2 funny facesdolnmoon on May 31st, 2014 11:20 am (UTC)
I don't look back on my old works unless at some point I get this stray comment and then I'm like, Oh yeah I wrote this like years ago.. lol

My first fanfic was in 2007 I believe SPN that is and I read it about a year ago again and it wasn't beta'd (because back then it wasn't as necessary as now) and it really needed a lot of improvement.. My J2 spn_meanttobe has really come a LONG way. So yeah I like those little time capsules just the way they are so that I can gage my evolution through fandom.

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:44 pm (UTC)
I like going back and rereading old fics when someone stumbles on them; one, to eat a slice of humble and pie and two, my memory is so bad, it's kinda like reading some thing new! Heh...
(no subject) - dolnmoon on June 1st, 2014 04:52 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Callisto: fic for bootscallistosh65 on May 31st, 2014 12:14 pm (UTC)
AMAZING first piece of art! And ı have to check out that fic, don't think I remember it. I know what you mean about early stories - I itch to go back and edit myself sometimes, especially on my Starsky and Hutch fic, which is the first fandom I wrote in. POV was such a learning curve..::winces::
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:45 pm (UTC)
Whoa, Starsky and Hutch? Did that fandom happen when the show was still on the air?
monicawoe: Theosis close-up (thank you quickreaver!monicawoe on May 31st, 2014 12:40 pm (UTC)
::glomps you::

I'm so very glad you joined the fandom, wifey \o/

And my first fanfic: Kiss With a Fist is Better Than None. It's a bit dark *cough* and conspicuously artsy, but it had a few clever bits too, maybe?
I loved this one!

I sometimes debate going back and revising these older pieces but then I think "Nah." These are little time capsules of where we were back then, and how far we've come. If we go back and mess with them, it erases that history, that information.
I totally agree with this, though I will admit I went back to one piece to do some punctuation corrections because oh dear... so I think my take on it is the words themselves are nice to preserve because they show us how we evolve as writers, but punctuation once you're aware of it is annoying when it's wrong, therefore it's okay to go back an tweak it!

This is a nifty meme indeed. Maybe I will play too.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:47 pm (UTC)
I kinda loved it too! It had some great nightmare imagery. My love for body horror is strong.

Yeah, punctuation is okay to tweak, but I think the prose should stay where it is. As a little signpost of our lives! :) *smish*

kassidy62kassidy62 on May 31st, 2014 01:26 pm (UTC)
I have left most of my stories as they were written, warts and all, except my very first stories in fandom. They were in the Charmed fandom (yeah it was a while ago), and when I was throwing everything I have at a03 some time ago, I just couldn't make myself post them as written. I went over them, taking out the stuff that made me physically cringe, but by no means changed them to the point that I would if I'd written them now. And I used to put together vids, and have posted more than a couple of them at a03 that I really dislike but I didn't fix them - too much trouble, and I really don't vid anymore. By then I was on a completist jag or something. But hey, I have a couple I still enjoy as well, and they're all in one place:)
By the way, the Theosis art is still one of my favorites of yours. I love it! The darkness, the *eyes,* the contrast with the dark and the blood! Gorgeous.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:48 pm (UTC)
Charmed, huh? :D

Thank you! Actually, come to think of it, some of my older SPN pieces aren't on A03 either, because I just don't think they're good enough. But I dunno, maybe I will stick them over there...
blythechild: I am the foolblythechild on May 31st, 2014 02:57 pm (UTC)
I'm doing this meme as well on my blog, and I think that it's natural to want to go back and 'fix' older work. I look back on old art and stories and sometimes cringe, but I believe that it's disingenuous to deny the evidence of your artistic growth. Let people witness your clausal fragments and run-on sentences! If you look back and see the mistakes that you'd avoid today, doesn't that give you hope for what you'll see in TODAY'S work 5 years from now? The possibility of a continuing trajectory of improvement excites me to no end ;)

Also, writing can be very personal - like a time stamp for that moment in your life (I find this less so with art but that could just be my perspective). When I reread older stuff I remember so much of what was important or burdensome to me at that time. I feel as though I would be trying to revise my own history if I went back now to change anything.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:50 pm (UTC)
I totally agree with those older pieces being an indication of trajectory. And it's sometimes nice for newer writers/artists to go back and see that once upon a time? WE ALL SUCKED.

I love your user pic, btw!
(no subject) - blythechild on June 1st, 2014 04:52 pm (UTC) (Expand)
siennavie: Cookies!siennavie on May 31st, 2014 03:40 pm (UTC)
I love and envy your coloring skills! So when you say it isn't your strong suit, well...damn girl, you're like a rock, right? No weaknesses :)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:50 pm (UTC)
Oh, pffft! But thank you...... :D
Swedish for "Smith"colls on May 31st, 2014 04:24 pm (UTC)
Well, you certainly entered fandom with a bang! That art is stunning!

I have gone back and viewed older vids now and then, I was pretty hit or miss (still am) and some I really like and others I itch to remake but probably won't. I've not really re-read any fic as after they're posted I'm usually done with it and my brain has moved on to something else. Actually, sometimes my brain moves on BEFORE I'm done, which... well, that's another problem altogether. ;)

"wistful fondness" is exactly how I feel about my old stuff, too. The actual stuff wasn't always the point, the having-fun-making-it was.

Good times. :D
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:52 pm (UTC)
I lurked for quite some time! And I was nervous as hell with my first few posts. Doodles and drabbles did NOT show up for a while...believe me!

Edited at 2014-06-01 04:52 pm (UTC)
nightmirrorsfaege on May 31st, 2014 04:48 pm (UTC)
That art always gives me shivers. It's so dark, but so Sam at the same time.
askellingtonaskellington on May 31st, 2014 09:44 pm (UTC)
I love looking at your art--it makes me feel things!!

it's amazing how many incredibly talented artists there are in SpN fandom. It really feels heavily weighted towards art, unlike other fandoms I've been in. I think SV comes closest in lovely art but I might be biased. *koff*

I think your love for Show absolutely shines in your work. That makes it a pleasure to see--the love and the excellent craft. You can always tell the folks who make art because it's part of them, like an eye or a lung. You know what I mean. :)

roxy

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:55 pm (UTC)
I love looking at your art--it makes me feel things!!

This is the best comment ever! I was just having a conversation over lunch yesterday with honeylocusttree about the purpose of art, and my believe is art should communicate and make people FEEL. So yay!

What's SV?

(And I do love Show, even now. Even despite Carver, damn it. *shakes fist*)
(no subject) - roxymissrose on June 1st, 2014 05:56 pm (UTC) (Expand)
madebyme_xmadebyme_x on June 1st, 2014 04:18 pm (UTC)
Beautiful art, as always!

I've often thought about tweaking my old works too, but I've never really thought about why I just couldn't do it. And I think you're right, in some way they are little time capsules that hold memories and feelings of a particular time , and re-visiting them would taint and alter that.

I do revisit my work. Sometimes it makes me cringe and sometimes I think, Oh I really liked how I did that, or that part was neat or I hated that bit etc etc. But I also see how I've evolved, what I've learned and how that has shaped the fics I write now (although that is mainly due to awesome betas). I like to have that journey memorialized in some way.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 1st, 2014 04:57 pm (UTC)
I know, right? Sometimes we're not as universally bad as we think we are, in our older works! And it's so tough to see how much BETTER we've gotten. It is a never-ending and difficult and delicious journey. :)