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02 June 2014 @ 04:28 pm
7 (non-consecutive) Days of Self-promotion: Day 2  
I had a big mundane project to polish off yesterday (and a migraine), so forgive my lack of timely posting. It's awesome to see other folks doing this meme too!

"Something new - talk about a new fanwork of yours!"

Sadly, fanwork has been creeping out so slowly. I have two fics in limbo (an OhSam prompt and a kinkmeme prompt from two months back that is anything but kinky thus far, surprise surprise) and one dubious Sam illustration for petite_madame, half-finished. (Not to mention another installment of Nod with monicawoe...) I neeeeed to get these done. I annoy myself by not finishing things, and I do this far too often. Bad BAD habit. Blech.

But I did finish a fic for sammessiah's Anti-Xmas exchange, and it got a surprisingly good reception. See, I'm one of fandom's workhorse writers. I mean, I don't get the mad hits or have this reputation as "one of the great ones", but I think I'm fairly solid. And that's okay. There's a place in the world for every stripe of writer. As long as I keep trying to improve--which I do; concrit is one of my favorite things ever--I figure I'm making progress. Albeit slooooooow progress.

HARD WAY HOME is a bit of an odd fic. Eventually, it's boyking!Sam, which I know isn't everyone's cuppa, but this fic isn't really evil!Sam business; it's very Dean-centric. It's also as close as I've ever come to fix-it fic. As a rule, I don't dig fix-it fics, as they so often become a fix-it for the writer's preferences instead of the character's well-being. It can veer wildly OOC, and nothing makes me grit my teeth more than coddled Dean. (Sorry, my darling fluffy Dean!girls! Nothing wrong with coddling Dean, but I just don't handle it well. Or coddled Sam, for that matter. This is a no-coddling zone! ;))

Annnywho, Hard Way Home also contains new art, just a quickie that spoils the story so don't peek until you get to the end of the fic. Sometimes, it's fun to do art that's fast and loose...both of these being relative terms as I NEVER do anything fast. This is another source of frustration for me. I have a bazillion ideas and things I want to do, but I'm a slow worker and constantly interrupted by family and paying gigs and the internet. Someone, give me willpower for my birthday, hey?

Little teasers:

SamMessiah-teaser

The night was the darkest dark, and none of them had wanted to talk. Sam had his jaw clenched so tight, Dean could almost hear bone grind. Castiel, to his credit, had the smarts to stay silent in the backseat. Somewhere along the line, the angel had lost his tie, and his shirt was still soggy with rain. What the hell could Dean say to either of them anyway, after Gadreel’s grand exit? “Hey, big picture, we’re all alive, right?” Yeah, that would go over like a turd in a punchbowl.


Have you all ever been surprised that something is more well-liked than you thought it'd be? Or you work your ass off on a fic or a drawing, and it just doesn't click with fandom? I'm constantly surprised.
 
 
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i'm on a website where people fuck fruitgeckoholic on June 2nd, 2014 08:36 pm (UTC)
Have you all ever been surprised that something is more well-liked than you thought it'd be? -- Pretty much all the time. I've got no sensor for that at all. XD
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 2nd, 2014 08:56 pm (UTC)
I am not aloooooone!
Amberamberdreams on June 2nd, 2014 08:43 pm (UTC)
I think I have already done this meme wrong because I didn't talk about my new work, I just posted it, LOL
Oh well. I love your writing as well as your arting - I think you have style and panache. *nods* I have fellow feeling with you re: readership, I'm still constantly surprised when people do read and like my stuff, I feel very much a 'lesser light' in all respects but like to think it's because everyone else is insanely talented and in any other community I'd be above average. Ha ha ha!

Completer finishing... ah yes. I'd still like to see my cowboy Dean before Christmas though... hee!
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 2nd, 2014 08:56 pm (UTC)
You have a really valid point: this fandom is so damned skilled, it's hard to make a big ripple! Also, some of the fics that get a bazillion follows and comments aren't particularly, well, good. They're expansive and certainly tap into something, but if that type of writing doesn't hit my id right on the nose, I can't do it.

I'd still like to see my cowboy Dean before Christmas though... hee! ME TOOOOOO! *giddy-up, self!*
(no subject) - amberdreams on June 2nd, 2014 09:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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Swedish for "Smith": SPN Impala gas stationcolls on June 2nd, 2014 10:24 pm (UTC)
I'm almost always surprised by fandom's reactions to things. Not my own stuff as much because I tend to be under the radar for most things, but by things created by people I know/follow.

And... crossing fandoms makes this even more confusing. The expectations of quality vary so widely it's amusing. Also, things/tropes that are frowned upon in one fandom are almost expected in others - it's weird.
tifachingtifaching on June 3rd, 2014 12:08 am (UTC)
How so? What sort of fandoms don't expect good quality in their fics? Haha, are there any tropes that are frowned upon by SPN fandom?
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firesign10firesign10 on June 2nd, 2014 10:54 pm (UTC)
Man, I am definitely intrigued!!! I'm really enjoying reading responses to this meme :-)
tifachingtifaching on June 3rd, 2014 12:43 am (UTC)
My most commented on fic is complete and utter gen fic crack about a bag of lost dildos, so, really, you never can tell what's going to get people's attention. :)

I'll click on a summary if it looks interesting and I've read a few good fics by new authors that way lately, but too often I find myself back buttoning. I'm with you and amber. A fic has to be interesting AND well written to hold my attention. What are the big, wildly popular stories these days?

I haven't read a truly awful fic in a while but too often I only read authors I already know. That's why I like the exchanges like summergen or springfling so much. You don't know who you're reading and there have been some great new authors (or new to me) showing up there every year.




Edited at 2014-06-03 12:48 am (UTC)
Snicksnickfic on June 3rd, 2014 12:57 am (UTC)
That's why I like the exchanges like summergen or springfling so much. You don't know who you're reading and there have been some great new authors (or new to me) showing up there every year.

YES. I love anonymous exchanges in general for this reason, especially exchanges when I will be able to read most of the fics (as opposed to big multi-fandom ones, where I don't know a lot of the fandoms). I love finding gems and then being excited at reveals to find which of them are by my reliable favorite authors and which are by people I've never read before. That treasure-hunting aspect is so much fun.
(no subject) - quickreaver on June 3rd, 2014 01:08 am (UTC) (Expand)
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Snicksnickfic on June 3rd, 2014 01:08 am (UTC)
As a rule, I don't dig fix-it fics, as they so often become a fix-it for the writer's preferences instead of the character's well-being.

This seems like a such a weird statement to me. Are we as writers supposed to be worrying about the well-being of our characters? And are we not supposed to "coddle," for fear that... the characters will fail to learn valuable life lessons, or something? I mean I write ALL my fic to my own preferences, fix-it or not - except the one I am writing for other people, to their preferences, of course.

It feels like you're attaching some kind of moral weight to the genre of fic that people choose to write, and that seems very strange to me.

As far as reception of fanwork, at this point I've found reception in SPN fandom seems to depend more on venue than anything. I always get more comments from Summergen and Spring Fling than anything else, regardless of what I write. Those are very good motivators for continuing to do those exchanges. :D

The exception is the random French Mistake alpha/beta/omega fic I wrote half as a joke and almost didn't even post in namespace, and then AO3 loved it. It's got more than twice as many kudos there as anything else I've written. Fandom, man.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 3rd, 2014 01:15 am (UTC)
Hmm. Good point. I don't know if it's "moral weight" exactly, but I'm definitely being a bit judgmental. For instance, if I know 'x' author is writing fix-it fic and I know them to be an 'x' girl, I'm not surprised (or maybe I'm filtering it through my own perceptions) when it is slanted towards favoring one character over the other. But then, it certainly depends upon what's being fixed. Seasons Eight and Nine were very contentious in this regard, and I can't recall reading any fix-it fics that remained true to the characters without feeling as though the author wasn't being overly-gratuitous to their own hopes for the situation. If that makes any sense! :/
(no subject) - snickfic on June 3rd, 2014 05:34 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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balder12balder12 on June 3rd, 2014 01:09 am (UTC)
Ooh, this fic looks interesting! I'm so far behind on my fandom reading these days. I totally agree about fix-it fics--I always feel like I can sense when the author has an 'agenda,' and it puts me off.

I'm often surprised by which of my fics take off. My most popular fic on AO3 by 4000 hits is an anonymous kink fic I wrote one evening when I was more than a little tipsy. I never even proofread it. I find that kind of comforting: it's proof that whether a fic is good or not has nothing to do with how popular it is.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 3rd, 2014 01:24 am (UTC)
Yes, that's it exactly! "An agenda." Though maybe I shouldn't be so judgmental.

I have a fic on A03 that has a ton of hits and very few kudos, and that makes me a bit sad because I'm not sure where I dropped the ball on it, yanno? But oh well. Acknowledge, move on.
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monicawoe: Cards-ani (slow)monicawoe on June 3rd, 2014 01:15 am (UTC)
I love LOVE Hard Way Home! Boy King Sam through the eyes of Dean is always a delicious time.

Have you all ever been surprised that something is more well-liked than you thought it'd be? Or you work your ass off on a fic or a drawing, and it just doesn't click with fandom? I'm constantly surprised.
Oh yes! Sometimes I wonder if it has to do with timing also.

Someone, give me willpower for my birthday, hey?
I will see if I can stuff this in the box along with the rest of your gift ; ) Which I need to finish! lol
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 3rd, 2014 01:25 am (UTC)
OOOOH! Yes, please. :D
comachomaisky on June 3rd, 2014 08:25 am (UTC)
Have you all ever been surprised that something is more well-liked than you thought it'd be? Or you work your ass off on a fic or a drawing, and it just doesn't click with fandom?
I guess it has to do with how much you promote your works, like submitting them to many different groups/communities. Sometimes I worry that people will get annoyed if they see the same works pop out everywhere. But tagging is not enough to attract attention and we naturally wish more people can see what we spent hours/days on.
Ever since I started posting at lj this safe haven, I haven't bothered much with DA. But there's still one group requesting my spn stuff be posted there, and that's called Beauty-of-Man, which amuses me a lot :)
The art that I got most comments for is a sketch of Cesare in Assassin's Creed II Brotherhood. I guess it's because at that time there I played the game a little earlier and faster than others and got to love Cesare and did one of the first arts of him. Generally all my AC stuff got more comments than my spn stuff, because AC gamers outnumber spn viewers, I guess.
Also I was stupid not having left comments on good fics during my lurking years. I felt terrible knowing that some great writers were frustrated by the few comments on their fics and thought they weren't good enough. Usually they have a unique style and weave their fics are compact from their thoughts, characterizations and world-building. Doesn't mean that's not a good way of writing, just that maybe people don't want heavy stuff after a day's work.

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The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 3rd, 2014 07:31 pm (UTC)
I haven't bothered with DA in ages. Mostly because I got annoyed with the site and its take-down policy (or lack thereof) and the rampant commercialism over there. To be honest, marketing drives me apeshit. I hardly even market here on LJ. But you're absolutely right; sometimes non-challenging fluff is exactly what you need after a taxing day at work!
madebyme_xmadebyme_x on June 3rd, 2014 12:46 pm (UTC)
I love the hell out of your fics and I thought Hard Way Home was deliciously dark.

I think one of the joys about our fandom is that its big enough to cater for just about anyone. No matter what your likes/pairings/tropes/kinks are, you can probably find it here, and I think some are more popular than others.

I've always wondered why my stuff tends to do better on ffnet than here. Maybe it's because I started there first, or maybe here it just doesn't reach as many people. IDK. But fandom is always surprising me, and I guess that's why I keep coming back!

The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 3rd, 2014 07:33 pm (UTC)
I think my stuff does marginally better here on LJ, because I'm very active. FF.net gets a few hits, A03 a little better. Each site has its perks!

And thank you for your lovely words, bb! *smish*
Amberamberdreams on June 3rd, 2014 09:40 pm (UTC)
I actually don't think Hard Way Home is odd - actually I just re-read it over on AO3 and seriously think it might be my fave fic of yours ever.
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 3rd, 2014 11:14 pm (UTC)
LET ME LOVE YOU.
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blythechild: Batman fetishblythechild on June 4th, 2014 03:47 pm (UTC)
Fandom is an elusive beast - I try not to post things with too much expectation. It probably helps that my primary fandoms have been small (SPN fandom is relatively new to me and I mostly lurk) and so getting anything other than crickets when you post new work is worthy of digital cheerleaders and beer *\0/*

I've never received negative comments on art (not many peeps are making art in my primary fandom. SPN fandom is overrun with talented artists LIEK WHOA!), but have received some on fics. Since I pretty much do fannish stuff to blow my own hair back, I take a laissez-faire attitude to fan hatred. It hurts - sure - but that's temporary and I didn't create it for them anyway. That seems to help ;)
The indefatigable Mrs. Griffinquickreaver on June 4th, 2014 04:45 pm (UTC)
Since I pretty much do fannish stuff to blow my own hair back...

I adore this line! And you're right; do it for yourself, first and foremost. Especially in fandom. We're not trying to sell anything to anyone. We're just sharing in this great big social experiment. :)
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